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would have happened. >> what would have happened? >> law enforcement and elected officials speaking for a relieved public. but very mindful all throughout of what already lost. >> we are exhausted, folkings, but we have a victory here tonight and so let's not forget the people along the way. >> it a complicated case and a challenging case and there are still questions remaining to be answered. as the cornel said because of the extraordinary collabation by all . law enforcement accident and resources and assets and peoplals who brought their a game, we have a suspect in custody tonight. >> four days ago my city was ruthlessly attack there is no explaining the savagery involve would and i spent the last several days looking at hundreds of hours of videotape and i got to see how brutal that attack over and over again and more importantly i got to see what the boston police officer and medical personnel and other first responders did to put people back together. turen u turn quiet andem stemming the bleed their hand and putting a man on fire out with their hand and this is the kind of t
was there when the law enforcement pulled up, along with his nephew and the entire neighborhood became an enormous crime scene in the final moments. here is bob glatz. >> it sounded like they said he's still alive, take cover. then some flash bombs or something, some loud noises went off after that. nick and i again kind of ducked down, not knowing what to expect. >> incredible that bob had the foresight and ability to shoot that in the intense moment. and he his nephew looking down from their home from an upper window. his nephew had a chance to just tell me what it was like to be in this neighborhood in lockdown and then to finally realize that the individual, this person that law enforcement authorities were referring to as a terrorist throughout the day had yet to be found, was right there on their block. take a listen. >> looking back, it's pretty scary because it was actually a fairly nice day out. we had gone out on the back deck a couple of times to get fresh air after being cooped up. and now i'm looking back thinking like, holy crap, this kid could have come up on the deck an
only be tried in federal court. he's never eligible for military commissions. a first year law student could convict this person. what i'm worried about is what does he know about future attacks? he's telling us that his brother was the bad guy, he's sort of just along for the ride. they had no international connections. guess what, he's down-playing his involvement. what i am suggesting is that we use the national security legal system where we can interview him without a lawyer to gather intelligence to prevent a future attack, rather than having to negotiate through his lawyer to get any information. jenna: but, if i could, senator, there seems to be a lot of discrepancy about some of the information come being out about this investigation. >> right. jenna: we've all seen it, you know, played out on the news and otherwise. i would like to drill down a little bit into an even change you just had about the boston terror attacks with the s*epbg o secretary of home land security january elt napolitano. we showed an older brother, this tkhaou owe, that is secretary napolitano. we just sh
. that got law enforcement zeroing on the two brothers. bill: mike, we're trying to piece this together as best we can but what can you tell us about the reports that the fbi is questioning him today from his hospital bed? >> reporter: all of that goes back to a "usa today" report citing anonymous sources. the sourcing is not as tight as i would like but certainly a significant development. we know he has been sedated. he has a injury to his neck or jaw, a bullet wound to his neck or jaw that prevented him from communicating. 9 report says he was roused back to consciousness and providing things in writing and providing substantive answers to questions. we know from the information he is providing that indicates there is not a larger network and not a second wave of bombings to be feared, bill. bill: mike, thank you. we'll be back with you when there are more headlines from boston. mike leading our coverage there martha. martha: we are hearing the police chatter when police first spotted dzhokhar tsarnaev hiding in that covered boat. massachusetts state police released the stunning infr
. it all goes back to "usa today" report citing anonymous law enforcement source but if the information hashings out it is certainly significant, the fact he is able to communicate with investigators by writing. he can't speak because as you mentioned there is a gunshot wound either to the neck or jaw or both but he is able to write according to this report and the answers providing to questions are described as substantive. what know from the information the answers he is providing indicates there is not a larger network. there is not a second wave planned or a wave people should be fearful of connected to him. again the information, the sourcing on the information just doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence, jenna. jenna: we'll take that interest consideration, mike as you've been on the ground there for the past several days. we see the flowers behind you and tell us where you are and when will the area around the blast site be reopened to the public? >> reporter: this is copley scare and you see another makeshift emmoral. so sadly these at that are common building up behind us. t
considered as a possible hideout? >> well, as you know, chris, they started with a 20-square-block area. law enforcement suggests they've been through about 80% of that. we are looking for a needle in a haystack. and look, we know his brother took a lot of hits in the gunfight with law enforcement last night before he was killed. you might suggest that this 19-year-old man we're looking for, he may have been hit, too. so he could have crawled under a building someplace. he could be barricaded inside of a house somewhere by himself, or holding a hostage, or he may, just may have been able to steal another car and our worst case scenario and get out of town. once law enforcement finishes this search of this 20 square block, then they have to regroup and figure out what cars have been stolen in the area that he might have used to get away from, or did we miss him and do we go back again? and, chris, i know we're going into the weekend, but how long do you keep a city like this bottled up and tell everybody to stay inside? >> well, is there any way of tracking besides basically hard target, i me
police are also serving on the scene. there simply could not be a stronger concentration of law enforcement personnel anywhere in the the country right now as there is in the small blue collar town of watertown, massachusetts that find itself so in the middle of the focus this morning. you have to believe that folks felt that the worst of this had taken place on monday at that finish line, and those two bombings that left 160 people injured and three people dead, but last night it exploded in a whole new way, an explosion, a car chase with these two suspects after a quick stop at a 711, they carjacked another man, stole his mercedes. thankfully they spared his life. he was pushed out of his own car, he ran into the 711 and said they are trying to kill me. the people in the 711 thought that he was drunk until they finally realized that he was just in complete shock and was indeed revealing to them that he had literally just been in the car driving around for 30 minutes with these two suspects. what a harrowing experience that must have been for him. then tamerlan the older brothe
, president obama praising law enforcement in trackinging down the suspect, late last night after authorities announced they captured their man, this is what the president had to say. >> boston police and state police and local police across the come mop wealth of massachusetts responded with professionalism and bravery over five long days and tonight, because of their determined efforts, we have closed an important chapter in this tragedy. >> nbc's kristen welker at the white house for us. what's happening at the white house today? >> no events on the president's schedule but i can tell you behind the scenes, i have been told by administration officials, the president will be in contact with his national security team when necessary to monitor the ongoing developments in this investigation. you remember when president obama spoke last night, craig, he said there are a number of questions that need to be anticipated, included what motivated these two young men to take these hape noeinous action and of course did they have accomplices? that is the question everybody wants answered now. i don't
-off from the local community to law enforcement. so we have focused so much on specific ethnic groups since 9/11 in terms of potential threats. maybe we need to open the aperture a little bit. not because the communities pose a threat to the united states but because there are individuals we need to pay attention to. >> when you talk about other groups, not al qaeda but other overseas groups that you might want to investigate. other people in the new york times are saying there might have been other parts to this attack. there is a significant arsenal assembled by these guys. are you comfortable this is a two-person plot or that there may have been some other people we haven't yet seen who are advising or perhaps even funding part of this? >> i think there is no doubt that because of the seven or eight ieds that they've discovered since the capture of tsarnaev, they were planning additional attacks. the question is what were they and what would they be? >> my guess and this is a semieducated guest. we'll find other people who were tangentially involved. unwitting accomplices, providing logi
procedure when the macials take control. before that, it was local law enforcement and the fbi. so the marshalls will be in charge of him, until he is well enough to leave here. once that happen, he will fly out via helicopter, like whitey bowlser did. they feel like that's the best way to take him to his federal holding cell. how that went down today with the arraignment in his room, the federal magistrate was there, a public defender was there. he mostly answered with nods. obviously, he didn't speak a lot. that could be because there are reports of an injury to his neck. the fbi said neck/head region and to his leg and hand. he in serious conditionful he answered questions by nodding. he did say one word, when they asked him if he could afford a defense team, he said no. that's basic lite only words he really did say. the judge asked if he understood what was happening. his miranda rights were read to him. they decided to read him his miranda rights. those were given to him today as well. the security here is very tight. in fact, what is interesting is, he potentially might get
to the success to the law enforcement investigation. it will be equally important as the city works to reclaim and restore boylston street. we have been working closely with business owners to near the plaza and opening up a mobile city hall close to the area for visitors to have fast a access to the city. also our team has been in communication with the victims and the families who continue to work as we move towards opening the area of boston for our public once again. i want to say to my team behind me, thank you for doing a great job. last week or so, all the agencies and since friday have been working overtime to make sure that the plan works to reestablish boylston street. they have been working under all the plans. thank you. >> heather: you've been listening to a live news conference. the mayor talking about a five-step plan now to reopen boylston street, perhaps the most famous street in america. the area specifically affected when this bombing happened last monday at the boston marathon. let's go to adam housley who is still standing by live for us. i understand you were just in the
away what he say. i talked to one law enforcement official that has a little built of concern. and the concern is this, that we are finding more and more about his older brother, who obviously went overseas. there's questions about how he trained and he was somebody who was a manipulative personality. withwe are learning how he tookr of his wife, and by some reports pushed her very strongly to convert etch obviously is somebody, as we are hearing reports about his nature you are, was someone who was somewhat aggressive. the worry about a couple law enforcement folks i have spoken to is the younger brother may not have as much information as the older brother would have had. that's something they will learn as we go forward. but now that he's been mirandized, that changes everything as. we. >> adam, thank you. after the fire fight and after running over his brother, he took off. a homeowner sent swarms of police race to go a backyard and suddenly bomber 2, dzhokhar tsarnaev, was surrounded. listen to the dramatic reports leading to his capture. >> a report from watertown of 67
exception under the miranda allowing law enforcement to interview him, making sure there are no other bombs, threats, perpetrators still out there giving the law enforcement flexibility to do the that prior to miranda and i think the court will interpret it broadly and give them the time they need to make sure that the public is safe. after that, he will have to be mirandized, doesn't mean the end of cooperation, but no basis yet to conclude they should be treated at enemy combatants. we're talking about an american citizen on american soil. there's no evidence that i've seen yet that they were a part of an al qaeda cell or directed by a foreign government. we're very far afield from a situation which is sort of the paradigm for enemy combatant status. that is, someone captured on the balg battlefield in a theater of war. resist these charges as an enemy combatant. the court has proven capable of supporting a terrorist constitution and i'm confident the justice department with all the evidence we've seen and a lot more we haven't can build a very strong case. >> congressman, at this point w
in boston as an scuse because our law toughens i think things up. >> the senate bill would have multiple background chengs and make sure anyone over-staying a visa would be detected. right now, there is no check on airport departures. as for those who came without visas, lindsay graham says this. >> now is the time to bring all the 11 million out of the shadows and find out who they are. most of them are here to work. but wree may find some terrorists in our midst who, have been hiding in the shadows, when it comes to the entry/exit. the 19 hijackers were all student who is overstayed their visas and the system didn't capture that. >> the senate holds the second two of hearings on immigration reform tomorrow. >> it will be very interesting. an emotional ballgame in beston last night, after a week of terror. >> shannon: a yesterday's home game was made more special by neil diamond, who made it there on the red-eye. members of law enforcement, first responders and marathon participants were also honored. david ortiz had a passionate rally cry. >> it doesn't say red sox, it says boston... w
it with a constitutional law attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general under president bush. he joins us now. i wasn't even aware this could be done in national security cases. tell us about how it works. >> sure. it's a rare exception. basically what it does is it allows law enforcement to delay issuing a suspect his miranda rights for a limited period to enable law enforcement to get information that would be relevant to public safety. for example, in this case one of the things we want to ask this guy is: is there another attack that might be imminent? who are you working with? are you part of a larger network? questions aimed at making sure public safety is protected, making sure we get any information that is time sensitive right now before he lawyers up and doesn't want to talk with us anymore. >>alisyn: we know that is vitally important because apparently the suspect planted other pipe bombs or explosives, at least, along the chase route. so they somehow knew that when they were trying to get away they had even, you know, planted other things to try to hurt and inflict more harm. so thi
. anderson. >> all right. don. appreciate that. bottom line there, he's communicating with law enforcement personnel via writing. we are getting new information about the wounded suspect. let's go to deborah. >> hi. i'm being told by sources being briefed on the investigation that the 19-year-old suspect is on a ventilator and heavily sedated. every several hours in the care of doctors, an interview team goes into the room to ask the suspect questions. now these questions are pretty much focused, according to my source, on public safety. for example, are there any other bombs? are there any other bomb stashes? are is there any other weapons? he has been been on a ventilator and he is restrained in part because they don't want him to rip the tube out of his throat. we've been hearing law enforcement has been communicating in writing, but what we do know is he is nodding. the responses he is giving are being given by nodding. there appears to be some sort of wound to his leg. it appears due to blood loss. he did have a wound to the back of his neck. it is not clear how that wound was inflict
be illegal, anyway, he's an american citizen. the law bars trying american citizens in military tribunals, but you know, i think this is to some extent moot. a, because the administration has decided how they're going to proceed, its going to be in civilian court. and b, the limited nature of the interrogation at this point because of his condition. >> have authorities interviewed katherine russell? tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as they can. what were they up to in the months leading up to the bombing, what did they do afterwards, did they talk about plans? were they in touch with other people? the quick answer to your question is we don'
through our civilian system of justice. under u.s. law the united states citizens can not be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> tsarnaev now lies under armed guard unable to speak due to what may be a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his neck. authorities continue to question him, relying on written answers at this point. but his answers may be somewhat less important in his prosecution given the volume of evidence in the federal complaint, including description of video after the first explosion. "bomber two virtually alone among the individuals in front of the restaurant appears calm. he glances to the east and then calmly, but rapidly, begins moving to the west. away from the direction of the finish line. he walks away without his knapsack. having left it on the ground where he'd been standing. approximately ten seconds later, an explosion occurs." the complaint also contains details from the carjacking victim who says one of the suspects said t
jersey governor chris christie wants to make some of the toughest state gun laws in the country even tougher. >>> good morning from fenway park! it's monday, april 22nd, 2013! now here's "the daily rundown" with chuck todd! boston strong! woo! >> what a great way to begin what hopefully is a better week for everybody thanks to the baby giraffes, an improv group from boston. those good morning videos, you could be tomorrow's winner. let's get to my first reads of the morning. let's run through everything we've learned since friday night's arrest. federal prosecutors may file terrorism charges today against dzhokhar tsarnaev, the 19-year-old man accused of the boston marathon bombings. tsarnaev is under guard in serious but stable condition at a boston hospital with a gunshot wound to the neck. some investigators believe that wound may be the result of a suicide attempt before his arrest. he's now being questioned, but only for brief periods because of his medical condition and is responding mostly in writing because of the injury. investigators have been trying to piece together the e
will prosecute this terrorist through our civil system of justice. underu.s. law, the united states citizens can not be tried rather in military commissions. martha: but house armed services commission buck mckeown argues that the white house should reconsider. he says, quote, it seems premature to declare that we will not treat tsarnaev as an enemy combatant since we don't know about his affiliations. clearly american citizens must be tried to civilian court, but the same citizen viciously attacked his countrymen, should be exploited for his intelligence value before any trial begins. that will be a debate that rages on for some time on this issue. we'll talk more later in the show with former new york city mayor rudy giuliani. bill: looking forward to that coming up here. meanwhile the feds want to talk to the widow of the suspect, tamerlan. she is mother of 3-year-old daughter between the two. the her lawyer said talks are underway with the feds how to proceed with that. he revealed on the last day tamerlan was home when his wife left for work. martha: well the officers who capturedded dzhokh
to be treated as an enemy combatant. it's a non-debate for him. the mother-in-law she is sickened by the horror inflicted. the family realizes now they never really new tamerian tsarnaev, the suspect number one and cannot begin to comprehend this tragedy. we are all over the developments including something going on in the city of chicago. more on that in a second. here is what we got for you now. mike tobin in watertown, massachusetts. what is the latest on the investigation there. ed henry at the white house responding to all these crosscurrents everywhere. to eric shawn where the injured suspect remains not surprisingly under heavy guard. mike? >> reporter: neil, this is the i dill i can neighborhood where it came to an end in a blaze of gunfire. the view of the helicopter pilot had there was someone hiding in that boat. he was wounded and bleeding, dzhokar tsarnaev half an hour from the cover of night that could have allowed him to move again. there were federal agents and guns drawn and at the ready to create a scene that people in this neighborhood would like to never see again. >> about
. but as the colonel said, because of that extraordinary collaboration and cooperation by all of these law enforcement resources and assets and more to the point people, professionals, who brought their "a" game, we have a suspect in custody tonight. >> the community stood strong. it was a call from a resident in watertown. we asked you to remain vigilant, and you did. we got that call and we got the guy. and so we can't thank you enough. you've done everything and more than we've asked. extremely proud of law enforcement today and what we've accomplished. >> this whole ordeal started monday with the bombing attack at the finish line of the boston marathon. three people were killed, more than 170 injured. the suspect's older brother died early friday morning following a shootout with police. the two men are also suspected of killing an m.i.t. police officer, 26-year-old sean collier, who was sitting in his patrol car. now, police hope that the surviving suspect will be able to give them some critical information about a possible motive and whether any more people were involved. nbc's katy tur has been
questioning him since yesterday. there is some form of communication between law enforcement and the suspect we believe in writing. pamela brown is outside the hospital for us, she's joining us now. what is the latest on tsarnaev's condition? >> reporter: the latest is that he remains here at beth israel deaconess medical center in serious condition. he is still in the intensive care unit handcuffed to his bed 24/7 monitoring by law enforcement officers. we are told that he is intubated and sedated with a gunshot wound to the neck. so it appears that he is still pretty out of it. wolf. >> doctors are telling us that tsarnaev could put something -- could be getting something that's described as a sedation holiday. i know you've been checking with medical personnel over there. what does that mean? >> reporter: well, i've been talking with our medical correspondent elizabeth cohen and she tells me that essentially this means doctors can decrease the sedation for a few minutes to a few hour so is that doctors or authorities would be able to communicate with the patient. we've seen this before it
're going to get into the law of this case. dzhokhar tsarnaev was formally charged today. he'll be prosecuted through the criminal justice system despite republicans who say he should be treated as an enemy combatant. >>> later, the russian connection. we have new details about the older brother, tamerlan, and his six-month trip overseas to russia, that area, as he became increasingly more devout in his religion and radicalism. >>> here in washington, the marathon bombings have already started to change the debate on things like -- you knew this was coming -- immigration. >>> finally, life started to return to normal this weekend in boston. i was up there as the slow healing begins. this is "hardball." as we say up there, "hardball." the place for politics. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ]
dead after a dramatic shootout with law enforcement early friday morning. his 19-year-old dzhokhar escaped on foot precipitating a shelter in place order for the entire boston area. but the much sought after armed and dangerous teen was found wounded and incoherent in a boat parked in the backyard of a suburban watertown home. discovered not by the hundreds of armed officers who had been searching for him for hours but by the home's owner, reportedly out for a smoke. with one assailant dead and the other in police custody, the people of watertown and the entire boston area expressed their enormous gratitude and sense of relief with spontaneous cheers and applause on friday night. the crisis is over. now the politics begin and this is where our responsibility in the media shifts. in the heat of the crisis, media take on the job of informational clearinghouse, keeping the public up to date, sharing critical information and get the information out right and fast. granted, those are goals that can contradict at times. now we must step back from the incessant drumbeat of breaking news t
today to praise law enforcement and those involved in tracking tsarnaev down. >> americans refused to be terrorized. ultimately, that's what we'll remember from this week. that's what will remain, the stories of heroism and kindness, resolve and resilience, generosity, and love. >> authorities caught up with the suspect after a tip from a watertown resident. he was hiding in a boat parked outside a home. he is now in a boston hospital and nbc's ron allen is joining me from there. ron, with a good afternoon to you, let's get the very latest on his condition. are you getting word from the hospital or are they staying somewhat silent on that? >> reporter: absolutely silent, alex. they're basically saying ask the fbi, ask the police about that, and they are saying nothing as well. it's a very tight lid on top of any information about him so far today. that could change perhaps, but you have to understand and, of course, you do, that this is a very, very delicate and sensitive situation and so it seems unlikely that the doctors are going to tell us a lot about what his condition is, par
is the federal law version of what a bomb is, if death results, then that is a capital offense. the government could seek the death penalty. massachusetts is a state that does not have the death penalty. so the only death-eligible charge here would be the federal offense, even though four people were killed, the government alleges, the three victims of the. bog and the campus policeman. >> okay. in terms of the investigation, where does that stand now? what are the most prom neinent angles that are being pursued? >> these main questions are really the ones that have been true ever since the discovery of who these two people were. and the directions that they're headed in are really going to be the same here for weeks. so the investigation is not going to be, you know, taking sudden turns. the main questions are how and where did they assemble the components of the bomb. how did they buy them? where did they build them? were there any practices? secondly, what happened when the brother, tamerlan, the older brother who was shot to death thursday night, what happened when he went to russia last y
at this and her family. reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as shock. as a mother and a sister, a daughter and wife, katie deeply mourns the pain and loss to innocent victims, students, law enforcement officers and our community. in the aftermath of this tragedy she her daughter and her family are trying to come to terms with this event. >> megyn: joining me now is judge andrew napolitano. so in the news business we get paid to be skeptical. we have a lawyer for the woman who is married to the dead bombing suspect saying she knew nothing about it. the other lawyer said she worked 70 to 80 hours a week as a home health care aide and never saw the husband who was taking care of their toddler daughter. that can easily put you outside the home while the bombs were being made and plans were coming together and ultimately the terrorist attack was coming out. that could all be true. how do we get to the bottom of it? >> the only way the government can get to the bottom of it, if they wanted to get to the bottom from her, she doesn't wanted to speak, is subpoena her before
or law enforcement believed the suspect could have fled. the investigation has continued to develop. we can't give you all of the reasons, all those developments right now. we will in the fullness of time. we can't right now. but, based on those developments, we feel it is prudent to be able to say to people "you can get back out as long as you are vigilant." >> did he he get away or do you know where he is? >> who is helping you? just the state police or additional municipalities? >> this has been an ongoing effort of the joint terrorism task force. it was from its onset and it will continue to be that. so you have the fbi, the state police, and all of the local police departments, clawgd the boston police department. [several talking at the same time] >> do you believe the suspect is still in the boston area or has he fled? >> i think i would be -- no, i don't have any direct knowledge that he is here in the boston area but we don't think he would get much further. his ties seem to be here. >> brian right here. >> how and when did you know that they were being islamic suspects? >> wel
. >> if people are coming from countries where, perhaps, they grew up under sharia law, i think we can make a safe assumption they have been radicalized. >> lindsey graham was on some show this week saying this shows how we need better tracking. i'm thinking this shows how we need better immigrants. >> how do we give asylum to people from islamic countries, or islamic territories? i would submit people shouldn't be coming here as tourists from check kn chechnya after 9/11. dagestan, chechnya, kyrgyzstan, uh-huh. as george bush would say, none of them stands. >> let me get this right, krystal. asylum is not based on those that may be in desire of leaving countries that we think their policies are no good. asylum is based on who you are. have you ever heard anything more biased and -- and in many ways profiling people just based on their nationality? i mean, it's the exact anti-thesis to what asylum is. >> it's the exact antithesis of everything this country stands for. judging people. not allowing them into this country because of their religion is unbelievable. i would love to know how many
shown quite a bit of skill, and evidence of training. one senior law enforcement official told us a short time ago, these guys were almost textbook perfect in terms of operational planning and security. they stayed off the radar, but beyond that, they have shown a high level of sophisticatifi sod skill in terms of evading police, and when they were confronted with a police shoot-out, incredibly, one of them escaped that cordon. he made the point that there were more police officer there and the suspects were outgunned. he summed it up by saying when have you ever seen that? they don't known he might have other confederates or other plans. the search, while focused in watertown, not a tunnel vision situation. they may have to expand that and perhaps even to neighboring states. charlie. >> we're pleased to have scott here at our table this morning. what's intriguing are the things we don't know. not only where is suspect number two. if he got training, where did he get it and when? >> charlie, we should hasten to mention a police officer was murdered apparently by these two men. ove
because he's killed before it's -- you've got to tip your hat to law enforcement tonight. >> shep, tu you beat you'll be up at midnight and i'll be watching. the bloody suspect taken to beth israel hospital of boston. adam housley joins us, what is the latest on this suspect? we can see the picture. he came to the hospital on a stretcher. >> yes. by a stretcher, we're trying to confirm what the two are there have been some suggestions of how many times he was shot and that kind of thing. we're working to get the injuries he's been -- facing. we're told he's in surgery. the information coming up as you know should come out right away but everybody taking their time to ensure they get right information. i'll tell you here there is a significant police presence. but there are police officers at every entrance, every exit. beth israel a large campus along brookline avenue here. over the childrens hospital a significant police presence wex drove through boston. interesting to see stores were opening up, restaurants opening up. pizza joints opening up, people started to get back to normalcy. it
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